Here is the video from the Zoom session on Monday, March 30, 2020.
And below is the whole text from the Zoom chat.
Thankyou for all your contributions!
/Merel Martens & the Team
Links from the Zoom chat
RAMA video about Original sound
@Merel you can ‘mute all’ in the Participants window
Marlou Vriens: So please ask your question, I will try to answer all! 🙂
participants can use “Raise hand” under “Participants” to announce that they wish to say something
Diderik Lock: Will this zoom session be recorded?
Marlou Vriens: Yes Merel is recording!
Ida Olsonen: So much love, Merel! <3
Privacy en Zoom?
Willem Jan: How about Discord?
Jurriaan Grootes: I tried discord, (others tried too), sounded awful, and not in sync
Sandra Vriese: Where can you find original sound in the app (for tablet users)
Marleen Spierings: @Sandra: there is no option for original sound on tablet version of Zoom
Chantal Sennema: Does anybody worked with Jamulus? its also a software program to sing together
Stephan Verveen: I tried Jamulus yesterday, there is no server in NL. For low latency, we need to be close to the server.
I tried Jamkazam, on wired internet with audio interface: is too slow
Roland Chorleiter: Where can I find ORIGINAL SOUND _i pad?
From Marlou Vriens:
@roland, original sound is in the upper left corner!
Original sound, look in the RAMA video
Deirdre van der Wolk:
Is it better to use the computer sound of the Mac instead of singing via inner ears?
Barbara Wessel: Can you say something about privacy?
Ida Olsonen: Does original sound exist in the mobile version (ipad/iphone)?
Merel van Eldik: Should you both use it? So also the student? (Maybe a stupid question haha)
Marleen Spierings: Original Sound is only available on the desktop version of Zoom, not for tablets/phones
Ida Olsonen: Cheers Marleen, that was what I figured!
You can also edit it next to the unmute option
Marlou Vriens: @barbara wessel, I don’t know it by heart!
Roelof van der Sar: does the whole choir need to enable orignal sound, or just the director?
Sander Gieling: @Roelof: The one sending (the Zoom host) needs to enable Original sound.
Roelof van der Sar:
Ruben Smits: Right, because all singers are muted anyway.
Marlou Vriens: You can hear the difference right now!
Carolien van Workum: do you also disable background noise?
Stephan Verveen: In the Zoom menu, look for Audio settings and then the ‘advanced’ button
Marlou Vriens: @carolien, what do you mean exactly??
Wilbert Friederichs: I don’t see a switch ‘Original sound’ or something like that on my screen.
Marlou Vriens: @wilbert, you need enable it in the settings! Go to preferences in the menu and then to advanced features
Wilbert Friederichs: Thanks!
Carolien van Workum:
if you do your settings in advanced you can disable background noise (twice)
Marlou Vriens: @carolien, the background noise can’t be canceled like that… but you mean the buzz in the background or of the microphone?
Heleen Karsdorp: Still a bit too soft, Sander
Could have a bit more gain @ Sander
Caroline Belotti: do you have the whole group or separate groups for sop, alto, tenors and basses?
Kim Beekman-de Fuijk:
@caroline, I separate my groups totaly.
indeed, sop, alt, ten, bas
Martijn Bos: technical question: I was trying some settings yesterday: my internal microphone was fine, but my mic over audio interface gave same cracks. Is there something I need to adapt in any settings for that?
Marlou Vriens: I will ask Sander, cause I think we will all benefit ;)
Agnes Ostheimer: amazing difference in sound quality between Sanders and Merkels microphone!!!
Marlou Vriens: Have a good internet connection, preferably a cable!
Marleen Spierings: @Marlou: which type of microphone are you using?
I have a Røde microphone!
Kim Beekman-de Fuijk: @elise, can you mute? 🙂
@Elise, could you mute?:)
Elise Zijlstra: Is it possible to use a mic and Scarlett Fosite?
Mariette Bastiaansen: do you have to put the cable in the modem or is router also okay?
Heleen Karsdorp: When you have glasvezelnet, do you still need a network wire?
Stephan Verveen: @Heleen, the computer itself needs to be wired to the network. Wifi introduces latency
Dank je, Stephan Verveen
Elise Zijlstra: Ah, he is showing now…. :-)
Brechtje Verboven: you can also use a recordingdevice
Marlou Vriens: Yes Brechtje
Marleen Spierings: @Sander: do you connect your piano to the audio interface? And how do you get that sound in Zoom?
Marlou Vriens: Piano is connected to the audio interface @ Marleen
Agnes Ostheimer: sound got worse all of a sudden
Lilian S: undo the system sound to prevent double
Marlou Vriens: Thanks Lillian
Ruben Smits: put the mic down and it’s solved.
Stephanie Kramer: Gain down to your mic!
Double input: 1) the built-in mic (becomes same as system when you share) and 2) the hand-held ic.
Marlou Vriens: I was trying some settings yesterday: my internal microphone was fine, but my mic over audio interface gave same cracks.
Jurriaan Grootes: perhaps use the “select a microphone” to choose to skip the mic and use just computer sound.
Marlou Vriens: Thanks Jurriaan! You can change your settings in microphone and audio settings!
Jurriaan Grootes: and directly next to the mute icon..
Ferdinand Beuse: https://www.thomann.de/nl/superlux_e205u.htm
Chantal Sennema: same here Merel!
Ida Olsonen: Merel, do you find that “original sound” still improves the sound with said tech setting?
Marlou Vriens: Only people unmute with original sound on and a cable internet connection
Esther van Es: Please unmute!
Kim Beekman-de Fuijk: how does it sound for you?
Esther van Es: Sorry! Haha, please mute!
Peder Karlsson: Yay! (to Merels solfa stuff)
Ida Olsonen: I M P R E S S I V E !
Kim Beekman-de Fuijk: for me I do not hear everyone. just me and some people
Marlou Vriens: Same here ;)
Kim Beekman-de Fuijk: oke marlou, good to know :-)
Jacqueline Nelissen: exactly what I did today with my choir
Jurriaan Grootes: mute or unmute?
For the record: yes I think I invented this exercise “Pitch Darts”. Merel has improved quite a lot how to do it. And I think other people do similar things also.
Kim Beekman-de Fuijk: that was fun
You can also just share sound
Marlou Vriens: Yes Martijn!
Marleen Spierings: @Martijn: how?
Marlou Vriens: I will address that in a bit Marleen
Martijn Bos: Great!
Ida Olsonen: From the share screen > advanced > share computer sound
Jurriaan Grootes: I also used the physical warm up from Panda van Proosdij… recommended
Kim Beekman-de Fuijk: When you share screen, you cannot see everybody. how to fix?
Stephan Verveen: So Choreo can be exercised just fine :-)
Ruben Smits: Turn on original sound?
Pepijn Lagerwey: please turn in Original sound
Kim Beekman-de Fuijk: I have a problem hearing this
Marlou Vriens: Original sound is on! Better right??
Jurriaan Grootes: yes
Pepijn Lagerwey: yes
Kim Beekman-de Fuijk: a bit yes
Very good example of what happens when you turn on Original sound!!
Caroline Belotti: so if we can share a screen with parts, that´s a good way to rehearse? is that correct? I mean on YouTube or elsewhere.
Marlou Vriens: @caroline, yes you can do that, via sibelius, youtube is a bit tricky
Kim Beekman-de Fuijk: I dont know this one. Is it on paper <3?
Chantal Sennema: yesterday i tried it in MuseScore but somehow it would play in zoom what can i do?j
Jurriaan Grootes: bass staff was outside screen…
Marlou Vriens: If you sing a long, it can be out of sync sometimes….
Carolien van Workum: did you ’share computer sound’? or not?
Sander Gieling: Use Panorama View in Sibelius!
Anja Kwakkestein: Is that also possible with GarageBand?
Marysia Van der Laaken-Pardoen: Can you show or tell again how you change the volume per voice?
Martijn Bos: You can just share sound
Dirkjan Horringa: If you play from Sibelius, please set it to view/panorama view
Marlou Vriens: You put up the mixer in sibelius
Diderik Lock: You can pin one person
Jurriaan Grootes: and on a Phone gallery view is 4 persons
Mark Hilgenkamp: Share advanced
Diderik Lock: There is option to pin 1 video.
Marlou Vriens: Share advanced and then only computer sound
Martijn Bos: In the settings of share screen there is also the possibility of shareonly sound
Share Screen —> Advanced —> Sound only.
Marlou Vriens: Thank you all colleagues!!
Stephan Verveen: WOW! Didn’t know that! Thank you!
Marlou Vriens: Yay!!
Heleen Karsdorp: Werkt een Musescore bestand ook op Share screen
@Heleen ja, maakt niet uit welk programma je gebruikt
Kim Beekman-de Fuijk: can someone please write this down?
Marlou Vriens: Please write your own notes, and save chat at the end of the session!!
Kim Beekman-de Fuijk:
dit is wat ik bedoel
nu zijn er maar 4 mensen in het rijtje
Marlou Vriens: @kim, ik denk dat bijna onoverkomelijk is…..
Kim Beekman-de Fuijk: snap het. :-)
Lilian S: ik zag 6 mensen in beeld als ik op de keuzeknopjes rechtsbovenin klikte
Heleen Karsdorp: @Stephan Verveen, hoe regel ik dit in de mixer van Musescore?
Marlou Vriens: Thanks Lillian
Brechtje Verboven: what is alternate in dutch?
Stephan Verveen: @Heleen moet ik zelf ook nog nakijken. Musescore is hier wat onhandiger in lijkt het.
Lotte Sieverink: @Brechtje om en om
Lilian S: afwisselen
Marlou Vriens: There is also a video about how to root your Sibelius sound in ZOOM, please check it out!!
Heleen Karsdorp: @Stephan, Inderdaad, het is me ook nog niet gelukt
Marlou Vriens: You can find it on our Facebook page
Sander Gieling: -> how to route
Marlou Vriens: Thanks Sander, autocorrect hahahaha
name of the exercise: Chase the beat
Stephan Verveen: Super exercise!
Merel van Eldik:
should all the choir members or students turn on original sound if we want to sing together? Or can I do it for everyone?
@Merel van Eldik – I think yes
Jurriaan Grootes: Marlou you are still soft
Kim Beekman-de Fuijk:
do you all hear the brrrr or is it my settings?
Peder Karlsson: @Kim – it could be your wifi
Kim Beekman-de Fuijk: ok thanks peder
Jurriaan Grootes: is the mic directional?
Wilco Stronks: better
Glenn Liebaut: Thanks for this great inspirational meeting. Unfortunately I can’t stay till the end of the meeting. Great work all!! Bye.
Elzemien Brouwer: I dont’t know how i ‘share screen’ on my ipad
Hendrikje Soethout: thanks to everebody I have to go…………..
Peder Karlsson: @Elzemien – I’m not sure whether that is because Merel would have to allow you to share screen, or if it’s a limitation with i Pad
It is a limitation with iPad
Pepijn Lagerwey: thank you Marlou
Wilco Stronks: Thank Marlou :-)
Marlou Vriens: Thank you Pepijn!!
Heleen Karsdorp: Thanks Marlou
Jan van Deursen: How do you feel about safety issues?
Marlou Vriens: @Jan, voice safety?
Jan van Deursen:
No, cyber security
Stephanie Kramer: Great Stuff Marlou!
Marlou Vriens: Thank you all!! :)
Paula Vos: This is so helpful! thankyou!
Caroline Belotti: bye bye every one. have a good day. and keep safe.
/Caroline from France.
Karin Bosch: thanks!!
Wilco Stronks: Thanks to all.
I also love our facebook group for tips: https://www.facebook.com/groups/285879962396554/
Mark Bruurmijn: Thank you!
Thanks a lot from Germany!👏👏
Sara Di Marco: For instance exercises in break-out rooms
Annemarie Willems: Thank you so much!
Karin Tooren: Thank you very much. It was very helpful.
Monique Ramaekers: Thanks!
Wilbert Friederichs: If we wan’t to share something, how do we do that?
you can save online of local
Caroline Belotti: thank you every one
Chantal Sennema: good question how to share video
Brechtje Verboven: maybe for next time: how to work with elderly who only have a phone?
Kim Beekman-de Fuijk:
@brechtje, goed idee!
Elise Zijlstra: https://support.zoom.us/hc/en-us/articles/206618765-Zoom-Video-Tutorials
Wilbert Friederichs: Thanks!
Elise Zijlstra: Very helpful
Pepijn Lagerwey: BALK will write an article about all this stuff. tomorrow it wil be published (Dutch only) on www.balknet.nl and balkveelzijdigvocaal on FB
@vera dalm, I will talk with the teachers team
Liz & Kevin: Have there been any thoughts about safeguarding, ie. how we protect our singers from unwanted sharing etc. and ourselves?\
Carolien van Workum: the chat will not be in the video
Deirdre van der Wolk: Share video with all participants
Dorrie Besouw: I have made some notes in Dutch anyone interested?
Ida Olsonen: Thank you so much for making this happen! <3 Great initiative, this is incredibly valuable.
Jurriaan Grootes: if you record online you get a link from zoom
Maria van Nieukerken: thanks a lot everybody. maybe for next time: could be an idea to exchange little more in smaller groups also?
Diderik Lock: Tips and tricks …
Elise Zijlstra: How can I let my students record the session?
Marlou Vriens: You have to allow them in manage participants
Carolien van Workum: @elise in manage participants
Pepijn Lagerwey: Thanks!!
Barbara Lok: Dank jullie wel voor alles!!!! Was Fijn!!
Peder Karlsson: Jim Daus Hjernøe’s channel
Marlou Vriens: Great thx Peder!!
Barbara Wessel: Thank you very much!
Ferdinand Beuse: thnks for this inspirational meeting!
Lotte Sieverink: Thanks a lot!
Stephan Verveen: Thanks for organising, very inspiring!
luciennelardenoye: Thanks people!!
Roelof van der Sar:
thanks a lot!
Heleen Karsdorp: Dank je wel, Merel, Sander, Marlou, Peder en de rest!
Elise Zijlstra: Thank you so much everyone
Carolien van Workum: the chat is apartly saved!!!
Femke Temmink: The chat will be another document in your Zoom docs.
Chantal Sennema: thank you all<3
Agnes Ostheimer: Thanks a lot! Goodbye!
Marysia Van der Laaken-Pardoen: Thank you guys! Good luck!
Carolien van Workum: if you save your recording on local computer, you will have a map with video en chat!
Sander Gieling: Bye everyone.
Fokko Oldenhuis: Thank you!!
Carolien van Workum: thank you all!
Liz & Kevin: Thanks Merel and team! Bye everyone
Stephanie Kramer: Well done teachers!
Marleen Spierings: Thanks for this meeting! Good seeing you all! <3
Anja Kwakkestein: tot gauw en dank je wel!
Ida Olsonen: <3 Be well everyone!
Deirdre van der Wolk: Thank you all so much
Sara Di Marco: Thank you all
Laura Tesselaar: Thank you for everything!
Paula Vos: i don’t want to leave….
Annemarie Willems: Super bedankt!!!!!
Inger Stienstra: Thank you!
Willem Jan van Asselt: Thanks! Take care. Stay safe and healthy, blijf gezond!
Lilian S: Thanks !!
Marlou Vriens: Hahaha Paula! <3
Karin Lauwers: thank you very much!!!
Edith van den Heuvel: Thank you all!!
Marta Mathea Radwan: Thanks for today. It was great. Keep singing and dancing. Lots of love to everyone!
Karin Lauwers: very encouraging and heartwarming